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Monday, March 23, 2015

The Fire and Water Podcast, Episode 120

The official podcast of THE AQUAMAN SHRINE and FIRESTORM FAN

Episode 120 - Tales From The Kubert School

Shag is off this week, so I am joined by artist and fellow Joe Kubert School alum John Trumbull for the oft-requested episode, "Tales From The Kubert School"!

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Earth 2 Chris said...

That was a lot of fun, Rob. The Kubert School was somewhat of a faint dream for this would-be comic artist. I desperately wanted to go, but I was far too much of a homebody, so I went to a state school here for art. The experiences you and John mentioned mirror a lot of my own, especially the long hours of homework. My roommate was an Agriculture major, who hardly ever had homework, while I stayed up working on assignments until the butt-crack of dawn. I also pulled a few of those "use the same assignment for two classes" bit. What you do to survive!

Looking forward to hearing more of these in the future!


P.S. Nice Dondi stinger. I actually saw the first few minutes of this film on TCM a few weeks back!

Anthony Durso/The Toyroom said...

The JKS was were I wanted to go when
I graduated high school in 1985. It was all I talked about. As proof, ask my brother who Joe Kubert was and he'll tell you and he didn't even collect comics. Alas the small-
mindedness of my mother and guidance counsellors couldn't be sold on the idea of a school devoted strictly to cartooning and comic book illustration. "What?! Unheard of!" Instead I was shuttled off to community college and enrolled in the Advertising Production and Design program because, according to everyone but me, it was the same thing as what I was interested in. The college counsellor even tried to convince me by letting me know he had heard of Stan Lee. (WTF?!) Needless to say I was miserable, skipped class, lost financial aid and my dream. It wasn't until I was married 9 years later that I went back to college as a Graphic Design major (the old AP&D terminology having fallen by the waste side). It's not all gloom and doom...you'll be happy to know that in an alternate reality I'm publisher at DC Comics and the New52 never happened.

Earth 2 Chris said...

^I would like to subscribe to your reality Anthony.


Darrin said...

Enjoying the podcast as always, but this one was extra special when we heard John mention that Loston Wallace was supportive during his time there. We grew up in the same small town as Loston and have been friends for years. We attended his wedding with the lovely Carolyn and thankfully still get to see them occasionally. Thanks for sharing these special stories! Darrin and Ruth.

Xum Yukinori said...

Wonderful program, Rob. And John, it is nice to hear your voice as a voice and not as my poor interpretation of how to read your online text.

It sounded like the Joe Kubert School had provided a rewarding experience for you both, despite the "hardships" you had described. In fact, I believe your homework and class experiences were a true representation of the on-the-job experience of working in the comic book field (from the ongoing massive workload and tight deadlines to Jose Delbo telling you to change an illustration as if it were an editorial edict [at least that was how I interpreted that story]). This is more than what could be said about most “normal” colleges that tend to teach about a profession with more focus on the academia than real-world application. (I can say that I learned much more about advertising by working in the field than I did through my high-ranked UK college education…)

I believe I can imagine the amount of work you had to put in, for I have worked a few years in a Hong Kong manhua studio as a background illustrator (which required long, late hours because I was not very fast -- especially after an injury I had suffered… off the job). The studio had provided me with a small room with a cot and a portable gas stove, so maybe I can relate to the lodging experience as well? Hong Kong in the late-1980s to early-1990s was likely more interesting than Dover, New Jersey, so I will end my meager attempt to create a relatable comparison now…

So will we see photos of any of your JKS works you both mentioned in this podcast on the Tumblr? I would love to see the two album covers in particular…

And despite the initial ratings report I was “hearing” about this podcast on Facebook, I hope we will hear more “Tales from the Joe Kubert School.”