Monday, October 28, 2013

The Fire and Water Podcast, Episode 68

sgTHE FIRE AND WATER PODCAST: Episode 68
The official podcast of THE AQUAMAN SHRINE and FIRESTORM FAN

Episode 68 - Fury of Firestorm (Classic) #4, Aquaman #24, and Listener Feedback!

This episode Shag and I cover the JLA vs Firestorm in THE FURY OF FIRESTORM #4 (Sept. 1982) by Gerry Conway, Pat Broderick, Rodin Rodriguez, and Gene D’Angelo. Next we dive into Geoff Johns' penultimate issue, AQUAMAN #24, by Geoff Johns, Paul Pelletier, Sean Parsons, and Rod Reis. The show wraps up with your Listener Feedback!

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Opening theme, "That Time is Now," by Michael Kohler.

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3 comments:

Earth 2 Chris said...

How weird is it that on the day this episode is posted, news breaks that Hal Needham, director of Mega Force (and Smokey and the Bandit, among others)died this weekend. And I never even saw Mega Force...but I remember those ads!

Chris

Michael Bailey said...

Re: Johns setting something up and then promptly ignoring it.

I went through the same thing when Johns was writing ACTION COMICS. On several levels. When Johns was coming on ACTION Kurt Busiek was taking over SUPERMAN and they apparently met for several days and hashed out what they were going to do with the character. The result of this was UP, UP AND AWAY, a great eight part story that set up Superman and his world in the Post Infinite Crisis universe. Clark Kent was the dynamic, go getting character. His relationship with Lois was strong. You had all these new versions of the old villains. I was excited.

Then that slowly all got chucked out the window. Busiek started telling this long story with a flawed premise and Johns started working with Dick Donner and suddenly all of the tropes from SUPERMAN: THE MOVIE started funneling in. I won't go into the constant delays because while they were annoying they didn't have much to do with what Johns was doing with the books.

So jump ahead a year or so and things suddenly start to get back on track. Johns and DC make this huge deal both in the fan press and in ACTION COMICS that the supporting cast is returning. Cat Grant was coming back. Ron Troupe was coming back. Steve Lombard was coming back though why anyone would want that character around is beyond me because the last thing the Superman books needs is some reject from the bullies from REVENGE OF THE NERDS showing up in a comic featuring the Man of Steel. The first issue where they were returned was huge and then...not a whole lot was done with them.

Now I could sit here and complain about the fact that Johns keeps doing this to us but there isn't much point. This is his move now. I think he has good intentions with bringing in a supporting cast or a new direction but in the end his overall story takes precedence. If he paced his stories a little tighter he might have room for Salty and the lighthouse and all that but that's not how he writes anymore. His storytelling is very Hollywood where the supporting cast will always take a back seat to the overall plot unless they are directly involved.

So I feel your pain, Rob. I really do.

Russell said...

Unfortunately, I have to agree with Rob here. AQUAMAN 24 could very well have been told in approx six pages: Aquaman wakes up, Vulko shows him where they are, the ice chair "tells" Arthur the past events, Aquaman is ready to go again, the end. BTW, since Orin and Atlan were brothers, Arthur is technically related to both the villains and the heroes, kinda stupid, that.

I did like the call out of The Fisherman amongst the statues. And Orin's wife reminded me of Dolphin. Is that perhaps a link? Orin, of course, looks like Thor. Intentional, or coincidental?

At this stage I am totally looking forward to the new writer.

Meanwhile, how does this issue connect to Forever Evil? Not even a call-out?