tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35995922.post7204443766872698517..comments2023-09-17T03:58:27.286-04:00Comments on The Aquaman Shrine: This Means Justice League: Warrob!http://www.blogger.com/profile/17556471244882205031noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35995922.post-43136957676487893242013-08-16T01:43:23.811-04:002013-08-16T01:43:23.811-04:00Two steps forward, one step back.
Sigh.Two steps forward, one step back.<br />Sigh.Shellheadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35995922.post-2950943113525407772013-08-15T13:41:06.038-04:002013-08-15T13:41:06.038-04:00None of the DCU animated movies really fit into th...None of the DCU animated movies really fit into the DCAU/Timmverse. Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths was originally intended to be the follow up to Justice League's "Starcrossed" 3-parter, and lead-in into JLU. But they didn't do it then, so they dusted it off years later. So it doesn't really fit into that continuity. Sure there are elements from the Timm shows, but they don't really fit into that timeline.<br /><br />ChrisEarth 2 Chrisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35995922.post-44713801607590633692013-08-15T04:30:55.076-04:002013-08-15T04:30:55.076-04:00@andy luckett "Why tear out a chunk of an exi...@andy luckett "Why tear out a chunk of an existing story and patch it with part of another?"<br /><br />In their defense, that's what they did when "Tower of Babel" was adapted as "Doom," and I thought that worked out very well. There's certainly room for improving that godawful first New 52 arc. Say, is "War" a stopgap flashback, or did the departure of Batman in "Doom" mark the unofficial end of the Timmverse? I haven't watched "The Flashpoint Paradox," so maybe that's the endpoint?Diabolu Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04685199809207954223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35995922.post-90450123479333399562013-08-14T17:26:06.565-04:002013-08-14T17:26:06.565-04:00I wholeheartedly echo the feelings of my fellow co...I wholeheartedly echo the feelings of my fellow commenters. It truly makes no sense to omit a cornerstone "Original 7" character with unique powers from the group, only to sub in a character whose power set is similar to Superman's. I do think Captain Marvel is a worthwhile character, but his presence in this Justice League lineup waters down the variety of the team. <br /><br />Beyond that, omitting the Sea King takes away all that he brings to the comic book storyarc, such as the fantastic moments of sharks attacking Parademons and Aquaman jamming his trident into Darkseid's face. Also lost are the interesting dynamics of Arthur thinking himself the natural leader, and clashing with Batman and Green Lantern over that issue. <br /><br />But for some unknown reason, DC Animation makes more work for themselves by reconfiguring the story to include a Captain Marvel that is barely fully formed in the New 52 continuity, who has had no interaction with the team. <br /><br />Why tear out a chunk of an existing story and patch it with part of another? If DC Animation wants to use Captain Marvel, great. Give him his own movie as well, based on whatever storyline they like. The more good animated movies, the more we all benefit. But don't drop important characters that your audience wants to see without any explanation. It comes off as disrespectful.<br /><br />Andy Luckettnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35995922.post-49051400614065637052013-08-14T13:00:36.882-04:002013-08-14T13:00:36.882-04:00I actually like New 52 Shazam but still I want to ...I actually like New 52 Shazam but still I want to understand the logic of replacing Aquaman with Shazam. This doesn't make sense.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35995922.post-11464416470706069582013-08-14T07:58:27.257-04:002013-08-14T07:58:27.257-04:00Kent,
God stuff sir. Aquaman has been far and ...Kent,<br /><br /> God stuff sir. Aquaman has been far and away my favourite DC character for over 30 years. :)Bleakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07790498353557880857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35995922.post-56028842260848546482013-08-14T01:51:04.946-04:002013-08-14T01:51:04.946-04:00I don't get DC. They have a popular underdog c...I don't get DC. They have a popular underdog character outselling major titles and they still won't give him any respect. So frustrating. Undermining a character like this is a self-fulfilling prophesy.Lukenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35995922.post-2482947654474888012013-08-13T22:55:49.546-04:002013-08-13T22:55:49.546-04:00^Bleak - My two favorite DC properties are (indivi...^Bleak - My two favorite DC properties are (individual) Aquaman and (group) Legion of Super-Heroes. I'm used to being kicked around too by now. I noticed Aquaman's absence from the JL War previews, too, and just sighed resignedly. DC is doing so much wrong these days, and so little right. But I support wholeheartedly any efforts to make them rectify this.<br /><br />^Sphinx Magoo - Damn right. The REAL Captain Marvel is probably my second favorite individual character - NOT "Shazam". And DC should always promote him, within legal trademark limits - as "The REAL Captain Marvel."Kent G. Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05432812900069534679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35995922.post-70261378432766119882013-08-13T22:29:20.724-04:002013-08-13T22:29:20.724-04:00Warner could easily solve this by having Aquaman A...Warner could easily solve this by having Aquaman AND Captain Marvel (yes, I said CAPTAIN MARVEL) in JL:W.<br /><br />See, I know of Rob's grudge against Earth's Mightiest Mortal, but there's no reason we can't let by-gones be by-gones and get 2 heroes for the price of 1. Plus, I think Warner and DC wimped out by changing Captain Marvel's moniker. It should be a proud mark of defiance against the House of Mouse that he be called Captain Marvel.<br />Sphinx Magoohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06482592989882628235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35995922.post-69667876840245158042013-08-13T22:09:04.534-04:002013-08-13T22:09:04.534-04:00*** the conversation I am referring to is via Twit...*** the conversation I am referring to is via Twitter!Joe Slabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17830460003862069026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35995922.post-30089014000525479632013-08-13T22:08:01.327-04:002013-08-13T22:08:01.327-04:00@the ghost who blogs -
I was just thinking the sa...@the ghost who blogs -<br /><br />I was just thinking the same thing! Aquaman is in the forefront of a lot of recent well-received mainstream exposure with his best-selling title and appearances in INJUSTICE Game & Flashpoint Paradox and DC is DESPERATE for fans to embrace characters like Cyborg & SHAZAM -- so hence they are placed in high exposure projects like DOOM & WAR.<br /><br />In any case, you can follow ongoing conversation between the Shrine and WB PR man Gary Miereanu where he confirms both our fears about WAR and that another DCAU feature is already in producing with the Sea King at its helm. So there's that :)<br /><br />Joe SlabJoe Slabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17830460003862069026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35995922.post-41092124892016196402013-08-13T22:05:01.129-04:002013-08-13T22:05:01.129-04:00I must agree with all my fellow Aquaman fans that ...I must agree with all my fellow Aquaman fans that our beloved Sea King needs and deserves a place in the new "Justice League: War" movie, and perhaps in time his own live action or animated TV series or movie. Aquaman is THE BEST superhero and one who needs to be shown more love.Michael Hollowaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35995922.post-20606445816149276852013-08-13T21:56:15.381-04:002013-08-13T21:56:15.381-04:00Is it possible that DC feels Aquaman us a top sell...Is it possible that DC feels Aquaman us a top seller and Captain Marvel is a dud? Maybe they're just trying to give him some exposure? <br />I'm not saying it's a GOOD plan, but maybe that's the rationale? Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03555047330587368279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35995922.post-21956698025772998832013-08-13T21:22:23.077-04:002013-08-13T21:22:23.077-04:00Well, if there's an Aquaman movie at least I c...Well, if there's an Aquaman movie at least I can buy that instead.Amzinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35995922.post-90617435090347001042013-08-13T20:59:35.897-04:002013-08-13T20:59:35.897-04:00Looks like they're trying to legitimize their ...Looks like they're trying to legitimize their poor handling of Captain Marvel (yeah, that's right: CAPTAIN MARVEL) by sticking that Bizarro version of him in this movie to replace Aquaman.<br />Sphinx Magoohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06482592989882628235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35995922.post-84603905480257457302013-08-13T20:59:03.559-04:002013-08-13T20:59:03.559-04:00Gives me more of a reason not to watch it. I hated...Gives me more of a reason not to watch it. I hated the first arc of Justice League and with Aquaman now out, just tells me that I won't have to give a living thought about this again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35995922.post-64395779905399134102013-08-13T20:57:24.505-04:002013-08-13T20:57:24.505-04:00How do they leave out Aquaman? Seriously?!?! In ad...How do they leave out Aquaman? Seriously?!?! In addition to Aquaman not only being in the actual story this is based on, he also in the time period this story arc was being published had a solo title that was one of the top 10 selling monthly books! Aquaman's solo ongoing book outsold every Marvel book being published!!!! That's something Wonder Woman and Flash can't say, yet they're in the movie. This is ridiculous! Aquaman has proved that he's a top tier character despite DC and WB trying to snub him.MetropolisKid41https://www.blogger.com/profile/12121196519360092429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35995922.post-10295186944866276332013-08-13T20:49:10.940-04:002013-08-13T20:49:10.940-04:00For me, no Aquaman means I'm not even slightly...For me, no Aquaman means I'm not even slightly interested. They've lost my money.Teganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12625983869465172976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35995922.post-21282458624578511322013-08-13T20:40:53.490-04:002013-08-13T20:40:53.490-04:00Amen.
The New 52 version of the world's might...Amen. <br />The New 52 version of the world's mightiest mortal is a mere shadow of the real Captain Marvel.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00619451811012157371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35995922.post-42919908482644962092013-08-13T20:22:46.153-04:002013-08-13T20:22:46.153-04:00Responding to various comments:
--It's entire...Responding to various comments:<br /><br />--It's entirely possible Aquaman will be in this in some capacity, maybe even in a surprise last minute appearance ala New Frontier. There are so few surprises left in movies or TV anymore that I think I'd enjoy something actually unexpected happening.<br /><br />--I don't think DC cares at all about a protest or organized complaint.<br /><br />--I'd argue calling Cyborg a "token" character (aside from the loaded double meaning that word carries), anymore than I would Hawkgirl when she replaced Aquaman in JLU. Sometimes its nice to shake up the Big 7, although of course it'd be nice if it wasn't always Aquaman or MM who is losing his slot.<br /><br />--There may be a perfectly justifiable reason why Aquaman has been removed from this movie. But the fact that DC saw no reason to even mention what that might be--not anticipating (or simply not caring) people's reaction--is the part that confounds me the most. <br /><br /><i>Aquaman</i> is one of their biggest hits, removing him from a major project like this was bound to incite some gnashing of teeth; why not head it off by addressing it (even briefly) up front?<br /><br />rob!https://www.blogger.com/profile/17556471244882205031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35995922.post-65196390592551161352013-08-13T20:20:06.918-04:002013-08-13T20:20:06.918-04:00Rodney Dangerfield called Aquaman from heaven. He ...Rodney Dangerfield called Aquaman from heaven. He says, "Tough luck, man!We'll NEVER get any respect!" Russellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03712278452970289276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35995922.post-57055577846835616792013-08-13T19:47:57.815-04:002013-08-13T19:47:57.815-04:00Hey DC!
When you put Cyborg with the Titans he...Hey DC!<br /><br />When you put Cyborg with the Titans he's the cornerstone of the team. When you put him with the League he's a token character who will always be out-shined.<br /><br />When you changed Captain Marvel's name to SHAZAM it didn't change the fact that he will always be a nostalgia character with a limited following.<br /><br />But Aquaman is the break-out hit of the New 52, a BAMF in Injustice & Flashpoint and yet you exclude him from War?<br /><br />Guess my money is no good to you then.Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01854594447135695552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35995922.post-84261568263454861872013-08-13T18:40:31.378-04:002013-08-13T18:40:31.378-04:00"Aquaman's getting his own animated film ..."Aquaman's getting his own animated film but being cut out of the JLA one? Doesn't make any sense."<br /><br />The New DC. There's No Understanding Them Now.<br /><br />ChrisEarth 2 Chrisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35995922.post-26855375928169175622013-08-13T14:29:04.373-04:002013-08-13T14:29:04.373-04:00Aquaman's getting his own animated film but be...Aquaman's getting his own animated film but being cut out of the JLA one? Doesn't make any sense.Joseph Brian Scottnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35995922.post-774788648749391012013-08-13T14:07:41.146-04:002013-08-13T14:07:41.146-04:00Bad for my fandom.
Good for my wallet!Bad for my fandom.<br /><br />Good for my wallet!Benhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10266790689307321870noreply@blogger.com